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Warning it may be dangerous to your markers to read this! :)
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:28 am    Post subject: Warning it may be dangerous to your markers to read this! :)

FEP Quest Review

Here is a review from an ICD owner’s perspective.

I had my Quest for about a month- The only reason I bought one was there were a few people here that got one and leaked the news so I will leak it a bit more! Mr. Green


FEP is no longer in business but parts can be had much like ICD still sells parts – FEP has service centers that still have parts.

First thing when you pick up the marker its light and well balanced with the tank on.
Roller bearing trigger stock = very nice. It has very little slop. You can walk the trigger and get very high bps - even in semi with ease. Much more natural feel than any ICD product. NO plastic parts!!! When you pick up the marker it feels solid and well designed. It doesn't have that "made in china" feel that a lot of today's markers have with plastic triggers and grip frames.

Grip frame is a little more vertical than a standard 45.
You can move the grip frame on the body - two positions
Grips sort of suck! You get ugly Halloween monster looking, thick grips most of the time = they suck look and feel wise, but you sort of get used to them. If you happen to have a frame drilled for angel grips you have better choices!

The ONLY gauge, if it has one, is an LPR! Run at 70-90 psi
Early models had no gauge and angel grips (both are pluses IMO but very hard to find)

Boards = stay away from Was boards!!! They suck! Major reliability problems. Lucky, Virtue and Inoviq boards are all great! Nox makes a chip but its not needed like with ICD products because the other boards are programed so well. Yes most are compatible with the 9 bps rules.

Regulators are nice right out of the box, one of the designers used to work for Bob Long. If you have taken apart a BL reg it’s the same pretty much as the Quest. The side inlet on the hpr is a hassle, but the reg is a solid seven out of ten if you choose leave it on.

Noid = same as early matrix
NO Hoses!!!!! Mr. Green Mr. Green
Spool valve not hard to maintain
Much easier to set up take apart than a FS bolt, even easier than a Bushmaster!
Not even comparable to the hosed mess - ICD called a FS Pro or Promaster!

Shooting
Noise = louder than a FS - Quieter than a Bushmaster.
Kick = pretty much nothing. About the same as a FS, much less than a Bushmaster.

So does this mean I'm dumping all my ICD? No ICD markers are very nice, but they do require some love and $$$ to get to a level where the quest is right out of the box.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:45 am    Post subject: Re: Warning it may be dangerous to your markers to read this

Alright alright alright, they're better than the FS....

That's all well and good. But you failed to mention how much more efficient they are too.
I want efficiency numbers....and I don't want to have to google it. You came to us with this thread, NOW EDIT IT!


Edit: Might as well be nice, Don't been nice enough to me. PBN sticky says they get about 1500 per 68/45, so that's even better than the FS8.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:48 am    Post subject: Re: Warning it may be dangerous to your markers to read this! :)

how much do quests run? i looked at them when the were sold new on actionvillage.com. 700 new i think?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:03 am    Post subject: Re: Warning it may be dangerous to your markers to read this

eeyore wrote:

I want efficiency numbers....and I don't want to have to google it. You came to us with this thread, NOW EDIT IT!
You dont have to read any of it if you don't want too - just keep using what your using Razz Efficiency is not usually a strong point of a spool valve marker. It never bothered me I get free air and refill between games anyway so for my play its way down there on the priority list.

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how much do quests run? i looked at them when the were sold new on actionvillage.com. 700 new i think?
Just like the $700 FS that now sell for $100 -
I bought one of my quest for 160 shipped the other cost me 217
So right around what you would spend on a nice fs7 or 8

more info here www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwCOkSZhaRI
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:46 am    Post subject: Re: Warning it may be dangerous to your markers to read this

DonF wrote:
Efficiency is not usually a strong point of a spool valve marker. It never bothered me I get free air and refill between games anyway so for my play its way down there on the priority list.

i want to be able to shoot a case a game. haha

i agree. i like high efficiency, but it is not a top priority. all day air = win.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:50 am    Post subject: Re: Warning it may be dangerous to your markers to read this! :)

So you like the quest huh. I've wondered about them but they look relatively huge. Can you take a picture of it along side a FS?

It is interesting to know you can get parts. My assumption has always been that parts were not available.

I actually find the FS spool to be relatively easy to maintain. It doesn't seem any more difficult that a DM or PM product.

Weight wise, how much different is it than a FS? I've held some light guns and the FS7 I have is kind of on the heavy side (this is relative though, its not really heave :D)

Now, onto the WAS board. Is your statement opinion, based on others reviews, or personal experience. I've used multiple WAS boards and never had an issue w/ them. I've had quite a few Intimidators w/ WAS boards as well an A5.

In the Timmy, the WAS board worked well. It wasn't as fancy as my Tadao board but it got the job done and the programming was very easy.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: Warning it may be dangerous to your markers to read this! :)

fivestring wrote:

I actually find the FS spool to be relatively easy to maintain. It doesn't seem any more difficult that a DM or PM product.

Its easy for me too - this though is so easy you will go "is that it" once you take it apart!
Basically if you can pull a bolt out of a bushmaster - you can service a quest ! It has the total of TWO parts! 1- the guide 2- the bolt


fivestring wrote:

Now, onto the WAS board. Is your statement opinion, based on others reviews, or personal experience. I've used multiple WAS boards and never had an issue w/ them. I've had quite a few Intimidators w/ WAS boards as well an A5.


Its not a problem with any other WAS board. Look at PBN there are at least five "my quest wont work" threads right now. All with WAS = its a problem with that particular design and it common knowledge. The factory stopped using them and went back to inoviq even for the last run of markers!
I don't have a fs anymore to take a picture of. They are not the best looking marker that's for sure. I think that's why the company had trouble. All the monsters and blood etc on their adds and on the grips seemed pretty juvenile to me. I never even gave them a second thought in 06-07, due to that and the crazy expensive price!. Once its in your hand though its a different story. Its not a mini that's for sure!
For size watch this its with a halo for size and it does what the quest does best at the end - www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZUU4JdsM_w

Like I said its not a slam on ICD its just a few people here pointed me to these markers and once I got one, I was so glade they did! Mr. Green
I'm not giving up my b2ks though! My collection is just a bit more varied with three bushies, two quests and one Agd.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Warning it may be dangerous to your markers to read this! :)

Not sure about weight, but what made me want one (I still don't), was the model at the shop. It was the camo edition. When he let me see it, it had great balance and was VERY light. Maybe it was a jedi mind trick since it looked like it would be heavy, but I was surprised. Been watching for a cheap one since.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Warning it may be dangerous to your markers to read this! :)

Its personal preference. Alot of people love AGD but for me I just couldnt get too excited about a expensive mechancal marker. I know some like pumps too, but I dont think I will get one unless alot changes at the local field.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Warning it may be dangerous to your markers to read this! :)

The only thing that would MAKE me get a pump is if our field resorted only to co2, which will not happen any time soon luckily.

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