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History of the Promaster
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:56 pm    Post subject: History of the Promaster

from Simon 'Manike' Stevens

So when I first came to the USA I was based in Texas. I was playing Pro for Texas Storm at the time.

I was good friends and worked with the two team captains and owners Avery Amaya and Ryan Grey.

We were talking about doing a team gun for the team, and I had been looking at doing my own personal version of the Intimidator at the time too. My Personal Intimidator design got taken and adapted to become the Naughty Dogs Intimidator, so I started thing about what else I wanted to do. (BTW The ND timmy prototype was built in early 2004 with QEV's and way before any other similar guns with QEV's, it just never went to production that way because of the cost and Bob trying to save money and saying that QEV's didn't do anything for the intimidator (I respectfully disagree).

At the time I was working for NPS, we had deals with both Bob Long and ICD.

Bob long actually got his start in electronic guns doing a custom version of the ICD Bushmaster called the Defiant.

I thought it would be cool to bring the two companies back together and make a smaller, lighter, and smoother gun combining the best of what both companies had done previously and making a good gun for the new craze of "X-Ball".

This gun was codenamed the "Identity" and was originally intended as a team gun for Texas Storm. I actually used the prototype to great effect when playing around Texas with the team and testing it out.

My plan was to incorporate the best of both worlds. So the original prototype had a small and sleak bushmaster style body machined so that you could clean any radius on it with the tip of a finger (speed cleaning in X-ball helps) that would take Bushmaster front regs and rams, and then a clam shell frame that would take Intimidators triggers, and Intimidator LCD circuit boards. I used an intimidator solenoid and had two QEV's on the gun.

The gun was small fast, and sweet as hell. I loved it. So did many others.

The problem came when both Bob and ICD saw it and we couldn't work out who was going to make it and who was going to get what from it.

In the end because there was no simple decision, Bob went off and made the defiant 2, incorporating many of the cool features, and ICD went off and designed the Promaster incorporating many of the cool features. Neither gun was exactly what I originally designed.

So the Promaster came out and made it onto the market. We worked closely with ICD to enact this.

At that point Lasoya and Infamous (or was it Miami Effect then?) were sponsored and working with NPS. They came to me and wanted to do a custom version of the Promaster for Lasoya but didn't give me any time to do it.

The easy option was to take the body style I had already designed for the Identity and implement it into the Promaster project. So that's what I did.

Hence the long story and the history of how the Defiant 2, Promaster and Lasoya Promaster came about.

i put it here, since the information here will be seen and is just good. will put it in the Promaster section soon.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:15 pm    Post subject: Re: History of the Promaster

That's actually really cool. Thanks for the info.

I would love to see the original prototype.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:15 pm    Post subject: Re: History of the Promaster

That was an interesting read. Do you know if he still has the "Identity" prototype?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:52 am    Post subject: Re: History of the Promaster

wow, Simon was behind this? what has he now got a fingerprint on, these days?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:09 pm    Post subject: Re: History of the Promaster

Simon is behind so much, from the Promasters,CNC Emags, halo s4 drive cones, prophecy and prophecy z2, sportshot hoppers, Mini, Axe, Empire Sniper, Empire Tracer, JT ER2. and so much much much more.

Paintball wouldnt be the same without the guy, and hes so humble and easy to talk to you wouldnt know that hes the head RD guy for a massive company like KEE

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:56 am    Post subject: Re: History of the Promaster

the fun thing is when you get him started about something. like the Sun God mill on the Emag or the "Uber loader" and what it took to feed a RT valve shooting at 26bps.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:18 pm    Post subject: Re: History of the Promaster

Or his giant magarita making machine

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