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taking a walk on the wild side.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:45 pm    Post subject: taking a walk on the wild side.

So in my search for a few different markers, Ive fallen on a couple that are new to me and I've swayed to the darkest of sides with a Shocker SFT and then an AGD Minimag.

The sft was bought while i was in Michigan from a local shop and was slightly modified while i was there with a tadao dynasty board, cp reg and feedneck along with a new designs trigger. I am very impressed with how it shoots but it is really hard to find certain parts for it(my vert asa is scuffed and the pin is broken and I'd like to find a freak back for it).


The minimag was found on craigslist for $60 and I've been interested in mags for a long time now so I snatched it up. It's all stock and in need of a full rebuild. I have a warp feed that may go on it and ive been scouring forums for random parts, but for now I would like to get it sealed up and go from there. Any opinions on this one are welcome.




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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:52 pm    Post subject: Re: taking a walk on the wild side.

Ive had a couple sft's and they arnt bad markers, I like the blue on that one.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:21 am    Post subject: Re: taking a walk on the wild side.

that's a minimag, not a micro. micromags came from ProTeam Products and were mostly unibodies(meaning that they don't have a rail). yours is pretty basic.

i used AGD before ICD and i love my mags. i have my classic, 2 Emags(sold one, then built another one this past year), and building an X valved mag of sorts. so depending on what you want to do with it, i would suggest a L10 kit first off. you will not break paint with the gun after the installation. after that, you can get a new body(ULE, which gives you cocker threaded body, screw in feedneck{which i'm currently making adapters for using Empire Universal feednecks}, angel detents, and is much lighter than the stock bodies. they are rock solid, super simple(you have a leak, put 3 drops of oil in it and leak goes away) and stupidly dependable. my classic is my mud gun and will always come with me, no matter what. plus a Mag is fully modular and there isn't anything you can't change on the gun. come to AO(automags.org) and check it out. be warned, mags can get expensive real quick.

SFT shocker. finding a freak barrel should be no problem. keep it clean, keep it lubed, and don't expect the anno to stay on the gun. because of the metal, or the anno process, the anno on the guns will rub off quite easily.

but if you like the shocker, then you like it. i won't use it. other people do.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:56 am    Post subject: Re: taking a walk on the wild side.

yeah, mags are pretty much bulletproof. most, if not all, leaks are easily identified & quickly fixed. my favorite mech ever. lvl 10 would be a nice addition but all you really need is a decent loader & chopping won't be an issue. a buddy of mine had a warp feed years ago & unless the profile is a selling point I'd much rather have a traditional loader. he had paint to break in his warp & it was a huge mess.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:48 am    Post subject: Re: taking a walk on the wild side.

Both very nice, really dig the mini mag... I never messed with shockers, have a few old school mags that Ill never part with specially my Z-body, so, I guess I am jealous of the spire Smile

I never messed with a warp feed being a woods/recballer, typically gun hits didn't count, but I must say they rank high in "cool factor". If I came across one for a reasonable price I would certainly have one in my collection.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:59 am    Post subject: Re: taking a walk on the wild side.

I think I got auto corrected on the micro/mini thing. I've been researching a bit before I bought a mag and I've been trolling AO for a while now and I figured you(nobody) would be the one to talk to. I'm afraid that agd could pull me in more than icd has. I'm a sucker for customization.

So far I know I need a real seal kit from agd and a few warp parts to get started. None of the o rings I have will seal it up. almost all if the stock ones have crumbled. A level 10 bolt is on the wish list but not a must right now. This one will stay simple for now. I will have a pneumag at some point. I bought the warp to use on a bushy but now that I have a mag, it just feels right.

as far as the shocker goes the anno is worn like normal on all of the high spots.other than What I have done to it, the only upgrade I'm missing is a vert asa (maybe a15*) and a barrel. Of course there are a few others, but it rips the way it is and everything else is an afterthought. I've been searching for a freak back but it has been slow going.

the spire is a fantastic loader. I would recommend it to anyone that needs or can afford it. They seem to be getting cheaper by the day.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:15 am    Post subject: Re: taking a walk on the wild side.

pneumag'ing a classic is well overkill. most classic valves top out about 17bps, give or take. pneu setups can exceed that easily. plus, it is lost on a classic because of the lack of RT effect. its been done before, but most people will use a Emag, ReTro or X valve for pneumag setups because those valve will go reactive with increased input and adjusting the length on the on/off pin.

and don't forget, you can generally get warpfeed ULE slightly cheaper than a regular ULE body. and Mags can be a hole in which you happily pour money into. and you can literally with enough parts, have a electro, pump and mech gun all using the same gun.

here is my emag. Tunablade, Priaxis rail, XMT RT ULE body, Empire feedneck(my own mod), Xmod and tuned by Big Evil(he makes mags sing). the gun will RT easily and happily. the day it was together and tuned, i was a happy paintballer.


now, i am gathering parts for a Xvalve mech(possibly pneumag in the future). cougars20th keeps making exciting and wonderful new parts for it and i am in line for most of them.

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if it was an LCD I was going to make a VooDoo doll of you and stab the 5h!t out of you for swapping boards... but no LCD, so swap away. Cuz you were gonna be all rolling on the floor n' scream'n n' 5h!t... you wer're gonna be like "ah gods!...what have I done!!" and I was gonna be like "take that you eclipse bastardizing piece of fecal matter!"
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:44 am    Post subject: Re: taking a walk on the wild side.

I've built electros and a few mechs and poured far more money than I will ever get out of them. I just like tinkering and I think that mags are intriguing. I will never spend money on a $600 to a$1000 plus gun, but I seem to have no problem pouring money into a worth while build. I bet I have at least $6-700 into my orange bko. but I don't intend to sell it either.

this mag will stay simple until I get bit by the bug and decide to build a pnuemag. I love seeing a marker that out performs most expectations. I could see myself owning multiple mags. I think this one makes 25 working markers.

I think the build is just as fun as the sport itself. to me that's what keeps some of these older markers desirable.

next on the block will be a pgp, an angel and a dye DM 3,4,5. This sport could easily break me. thankfully I'm single for the time being.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:18 am    Post subject: Re: taking a walk on the wild side.

Other than ICD markers, DM3's are my other marker that I just keep going back to.

I liked when fields had mags for rentals, instead of tippmanns.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:41 pm    Post subject: Re: taking a walk on the wild side.

For SFT parts there are always 3-4 threads in the parts section of PBNation with people who have hundreds of shocker parts. Should be able to find what your lookin for there.

Here is an example, and it sounds like he has multiple black freak backs that are SFT threaded....

www.pbnation.com/showt...?t=3978826
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