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How smart is the 2k6 Chaos?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:40 pm    Post subject: How smart is the 2k6 Chaos?

Just got my 2k6 Chaos and installed into my b2k4. No problems. However, I noticed one quirk (?).

When I turn the marker ON without gassing it up and pull the trigger, it automatically goes into eye bypass mode. If I then try to activate the solenoid by pulling the trigger, the noid doesn't click... but the light indicates that it's firing. However, as soon as I gas up the marker, the noid activates.

Is that by design? I guess it protects the noid somewhat.

I guess this question is really for Goldie.

Thanks.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:43 pm    Post subject: Re: How smart is the 2k6 Chaos?

sounds like your dwell might be low and it only actuates the noid when there's air assisting it. It may not be getting enough juice to make the noid click without air.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:56 am    Post subject: Re: How smart is the 2k6 Chaos?

Goldie,

Thanks. The dwell is 12ms. I'll have to swap in a freshly charged battery. I just thought that it was sooooo smart. Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:31 am    Post subject: Re: How smart is the 2k6 Chaos?

Hmmm... freshly charge battery.

When I set it to auto, I can hear a very faint clicking of the noid. Much softer as compared to using the stock or 2k4 board.

Does the new 2k6 board require more voltage?

I'll have to go chrony the marker to be able to make a better comparison.

Edit:----------------------------------

A little more troubleshooting.... put back to 2k4 Chaos board. Noid is easily heard clicking. Replace with 2k6 board. Noid's clicking is really really soft. Replaced freshly charged battery with a fresh alkaline non-rechargable. Noid's clicking is really really soft.

The noid is fine. I suspect the board isn't putting out the proper voltage to the noid. I've noticed the 2k6 board doesn't appear to have a capacitor like the 2k4 board.

I still haven't had a chance to chrony though.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:55 pm    Post subject: Re: How smart is the 2k6 Chaos?

Ok... so the saga continues....

B2K4 as per my sig. HPR set to 190 psi. I suspect the LPR is set to approx 70-80 psi (no gauge... just a guess based on pressure required to push the bolt forward).

No jumpers on either board.

2k4 Chaos with PSP firmware. Dwell set to 12ms
280-285 fps. No FSDO.

2k6 Chaos set to PSP mode. Dwell set to 12 ms and tried at 13ms with ABS set to 2 and tried at 5 ms.
Severe FSDO..... first trigger pull will push the bolt forward enough so the pball literally rolls out the barrel. Subsequent shots are roughly 180-240fps. Severe fluctuations in fps.

Same battery. Started with 2k6 Chaos then swapped to 2k4 Chaos. I've flashed the 2k6 Chaos with the firmware on several occasions. Confirmed successful flash by the ability to download the settings from the board.

One other problem noticed with the 2k6 board. With the eyes turned ON, on several occasions, it would shoot a few shots, then would indicate that no paintball is in the breech... even though there is. Eye mode set to either bolt timer or eye monitor... same thing will occur. I have no such problems with the 2k4 board... using the same paintballs (actually Reballs) and same loader (tried both Eggy and Halo B). If I then turn the eyes off, it goes into eye bypass mode, and will fire. Or, if I turn the board off, and then turn it back on again, it will fire.

I've also noticed a lot of "condensation" smoke with the 2k6 Chaos and no visible smoke with the 2k4 Chaos. Same ambient conditions. I was shooting indoors. It took me < 2 min to swap the board.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:46 pm    Post subject: Re: How smart is the 2k6 Chaos?

Just talked to Goldie about this.. Send your board in for repair/replacement. Smile

D.

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