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"Joker" Vanguard Creed / Zodiac Zr1
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:20 am    Post subject: "Joker" Vanguard Creed / Zodiac Zr1

Have an amazing looking Creed as well as a smooth shooting Zr1 (w/ 1.5 bolt) for sale.

Creed: PRICE: $520 shipped
cosmetic - 8.5/10
mechanical - 9.5/10 (Only because it's older but I've had no issues)
- Comes with everything as it would new plus spare ram, battery, and stock bolt (Pooty modded installed). No allen keys, lanyard, or bottle opener.







Zr1: PRICE: $450 shipped
cosmetic - 9/10
mechanical - 10/10
- EYES FIXED
- Comes with case, shiv kit (Minus the .684 bore), near full tube of lube, and pressure tester.







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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:22 am    Post subject: Re: "Joker" Vanguard Creed / Zodiac Zr1

Wording is all screwed up for the Zr1 portion so here's what it should be showing:

Zr1: PRICE: $400 shipped
cosmetic - 9/10
mechanical - 9/10 (Eyes currently not working properly)
- I will check all the wiring but I haven't chopped a single ball while not using the eyes.
- Comes with case, shiv kit (Minus the .684 bore), near full tube of lube, and pressure tester.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:46 pm    Post subject: Re: "Joker" Vanguard Creed / Zodiac Zr1

If i had the cash i would pick up that zr-1

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:07 am    Post subject: Re: "Joker" Vanguard Creed / Zodiac Zr1

Yeah I'd like the zodiac too. Maybe you can shed some light on this. Something I've been wondering since the machine vapor came out. If the zr-1 was made at spurlocks manufacturing and they had those quality issues with those zr-1s that spurlock sold but were counterfeit and then he comes out with the vapor. Did he totally rip off the ZR-1? Or what?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:00 am    Post subject: Re: "Joker" Vanguard Creed / Zodiac Zr1

Forrestball wrote:
Yeah I'd like the zodiac too. Maybe you can shed some light on this. Something I've been wondering since the machine vapor came out. If the zr-1 was made at spurlocks manufacturing and they had those quality issues with those zr-1s that spurlock sold but were counterfeit and then he comes out with the vapor. Did he totally rip off the ZR-1? Or what?

This is the best of what I found on that matter:

"Now to clarify the rumors for as to counterfeit markers. There were none. Period. There are several threads on this on PBM between Chris Cole (who deisgned this and the Quest) and Mike Spurlock. What apparently happened was that Zodiac hired Machine Paintball to machine the bodies and components for the ZR-1 and the quality was so poor they were rejected by Zodiac. This apparenrly pissed off Machine PB who refused to return other proprietary parts and indicated that they would release thier own marker insinuating a ZR-1clone. THIS is what prompted the unfortunate rant by Chris Cole about seizing any fake Zodiacs and requiring all markers sent to them for registration. As you can imagine this freaked people out. Spurlock then later posted a long response saying that they we NOT going to clone any Zodiac markers but would be releasing thier own markers under a different name, which you all now know as the Vapor."

I do not believe any counterfeits were sold, and if any were I'm sure that would have been taken care of by Zodiac.
I love how this thing shoots, I really do. Compared it to a friend's Luxe and I hated the Luxe. Vice versa, he doesn't like the Zr1 but it feels so much better to me in the hands, as well as it has less kick than his Luxe, and just as quiet, and more efficient...

These really are underrated and I may hold onto it, and get it anodized.

As for the Creed I love it too, but it doesn't get used as much as it should so I'd rather get some money for it.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:41 pm    Post subject: Re: "Joker" Vanguard Creed / Zodiac Zr1

Eye malfunction was a pinched wire, all fixed up now Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:47 am    Post subject: Re: "Joker" Vanguard Creed / Zodiac Zr1

Love the creed, remember seeing it when Caustic Customs Anodizing did it right before he did my vice. Wish I had the cash to pick this up.
Good luck.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:56 am    Post subject: Re: "Joker" Vanguard Creed / Zodiac Zr1

Still have both of these. Both in perfect working order.
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