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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 7:43 pm    Post subject: Firearm owners I need some assistance

Im looking for a cleaning kit. What solvents and lubricants would you recommend for my glock? Im new to firearms and am unsure what I need for upkeep. Please school me and feed me whatever information you think can help me even if its unrelated to maintenance. Thanks fellas!
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 8:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Firearm owners I need some assistance

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Im looking for a cleaning kit. What solvents and lubricants would you recommend for my glock? Im new to firearms and am unsure what I need for upkeep. Please school me and feed me whatever information you think can help me even if its unrelated to maintenance. Thanks fellas!

I use M-Pro 7 Gun CLeaner and their Gun Oil LPX, they sell a kit that is $70 or so it comes with copper defouler stuff, a wire brush kit with plenty of brush sizes up to 12 gauge, I use the biggest one for my AK gas tube cleaning Smile

You can always get Slip 2000 like I did when I first got serious about my guns. I use a old toothbrush or model brush, a microfiber towel/rag from Costco or whatever and wipe down the barrel, slide and get into the magwell / fire control group area and then apply oil to the key points.

I clean my Glock's at or around the 1K mark or sometimes after every range trip, I like keeping my stuff clean just in case I have to use em to protect me and or my family. I think I let my 17C go 5K rounds or more before cleaning it and it fired fine up to that point.

Ballistol is another good lube to use, but I prefer M-Pro 7 or Slip 2000 because it is non-toxic and dishwasher safe just like your Glock Wink
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 8:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Firearm owners I need some assistance

Try Extreme Weapons Lube. Made by the same people that make Slip2000 but it's better. It works awesome as a lubricant but will also cut threw copper and lead in barrels with minimal brushing. I usually run a brush and cloth threw my barrel after every use, major tear down after about 1k rounds. Depends on the ammo you use too. Cheap walmart stuff usually burns dirty and requires more frequent cleanings.

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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Firearm owners I need some assistance

Thanks guys! I ill definitely look them up. Where do you go for ammo? I was looking at cheaperthandirt for some .45acp.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 8:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Firearm owners I need some assistance

gun-deals.com/ammo

I also use a Bore Snake, best $20 or so investment made ever Smile I have one for my 9mm and .223 which works with my .219 or so for the AK-74 Cool
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Firearm owners I need some assistance

My dad and I reload most all of the plinking ammo we use along with hunting rounds. For personal defense we load Barnes TAC-XP or buy Federal Hydra-Shok.

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:16 am    Post subject: Re: Firearm owners I need some assistance

I will check that ammo out. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 4:02 am    Post subject: Re: Firearm owners I need some assistance

Check out sgammo.com. They had some Aguila 230gr ball for $290/1000rds.

I use Mill-Comm TW-25B grease and MC-25 oil for lubrication on my handguns and it has worked well for me. They also have a non toxic cleaner/degreaser which works fine for mild cleaning. I still use Hoppe's for cleaning mild buildup of copper or lead fouling.
The Slip200 EWL also works well, i use it on AR BCGs.

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:29 am    Post subject: Re: Firearm owners I need some assistance

Ammo can be found virtually anywhere. Spend a little time googling and you can find hundreds of deals & sites. If I am buying a box or two I will pick up local but if I am buying large amounts then I use a company that does fresh loads & reloads called Georgia Arms. I use them b/c I have used their product and it is 1st rate.

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As far as cleaning equipment it is by preference. Just keep it clean like your life depended on it. The quickest repair to most common weapon issues is a thorough cleaning.

Hope this helps Vee.

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 11:09 am    Post subject: Re: Firearm owners I need some assistance

OMG.. I'll try to be nice here, but I have to be honest and sometimes being honest meants it doesn't sound very nice. so if I offend anyone, my appologies in advance.

when it comes to firearms, like Dirty Harry said "opinions are like a$$holes, everybodies got one"... or more truthfully they're like knee caps, every body has two, or even toes...more than two etc... the point is, in firearms opinions are to guns what statistics are to baseball. Not necessary to be used or enjoyed but an inevitable part like it or not.

When it comes to lubricants and/or cleaners to use on your Glock or other firearms there is only one you need to remember. Break-Free Clp. Period.

You need nothing else interms of cleaners/solvents/lubricants. Decent set of brushes and you are set... heck even the stock barrel brush that comes with your Glock is fine.

Glocks need VERY little lubrication. People typically seriously over oil their Glocks. They are some of the best firearms in the WORLD and there is a reason for that.

My first Glock was a Model 21. Shortly after I first purchased it I had the priveledge to sit down with a master Glock armorer and get treated to about 2 hours of his vast Glock knowledge, history of Glock, why Glocks ar ethe way they are etc etc... The most important things he said that he wanted me to remember were what points on the gun to oil and what oil to use... Break-Free. Glocks take so little oil a 6oz can should last years.

every LEO I know uses Break-free and the Dallas PD range master swears by it.

in terms of how often you should clean. that's up to you. I clean after every range trip usually. i just don't like putting away dirty guns. however modern ammunition burns much cleaner than any has in the past. rigorous cleaning is not a prerequisite for reliable operation. it would take diirt and powder residue buildup from 10's of thousands of rounds to reach a point that a Glock would not function. My early model 21 had a very light firing pin and would occasionally fail to fire on some brands of cheap target ammo. the same cartridge was ejected and put in a 1911 and they fired every time. I never experienced a FTF with premium ammo, however the light pin was corrected on later model 21s. One more thing, Glocks have a tendancy to "stove pipe" if you limp wrist them. A stove pipe is when the cartridge does no clear the breach on the eject cycle and leaves the spent casing sandwiched in the breach sticking up like a stove pipe. easily cleared by pulling the slide back but not good in a defense situation. a stiff wrist while shooting will eliminate this prooblem.

don't get too caught up in ammo choice. i know guys that read all of a cartridges ballistics before buying even the first box... what a waste of time. Hydra-Shok and Starfire are great.. and remember, even ball ammo(target loads) will put holes in people! Plus if you are so inclined to shoot someone, it's a good idea to pull the trigger more than once.

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