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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:46 am    Post subject: Re: Power Tools

I've got a bunch of dewalt/mikita/bosch tools from my contracting days. Some are from the late 80's.
Have been properly abused and still going strong.
My chop saw is a dewalt 708
My favorite router that I have is a bosch
Cordless drill wise, Panasonic 1/2 Inch Drill/Driver is tough to beat.
My brother has a couple of these as well as mikita & milwaukee but always prefer the panasonic ones. They're beast's.
Can never have enough tools. Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Power Tools

I love routers. Nothing in the world sounds like a router.


Speaking of Bosch, I also love their planer. It is a must for contractors.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Power Tools

Mines a Mikita. Had it since late 80's.
Still have my mikita 2708 bench top table just like this one, since the mid 80's.
Still going strong.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:05 am    Post subject: Re: Power Tools

Alright, here is one for you:

A few months back, an older guy walked up to my boss an I while we were in the parking lot at home depot and was talking to us about tools and work. Neither of us knew him; I think he was just out for the sake of being out to see and talk to people. Anyway, he was telling us about how one of his friends had his dead Nicad 18v dewalt batteries refilled with something else (presumably lithium ion) so that they worked again and it was cheaper than replacing the pack. Have any of you heard of this? I just had a pack puke and before I recycle it, I figured I would ask. I have never heard of it and don't really believe it.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Power Tools

That's interesting because one of my DW packs just died on me as well.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:28 am    Post subject: Re: Power Tools

Alright, I did a bit of research about it. What people do is they disassemble them and replace the individual batteries within the pack. I don't think people go from Nicad to Li-ion, but voltman offers a service that apparently takes a spent battery, repairs it, and it turns out better than new out of box. I haven't seen much in the way of reviews, but for the overhaul style service, it is 84 dollars for a 18v dewalt battery.

I also saw where you can basically jump start a battery with another power source. It seems like if it is a 12 or 14 volt battery, you can use a fully charged 18v. For an 18v, you can use a car battery, or an electric welder. I read that crap builds on the terminals of the individual batteries, causing issues. If a battery is completely dead, it is likely a few cells within the pack, rather than the entire pack. You can replace those cells, or jolt them back to life.

If it is that easy, I might rifle through some of those battery recycling bins they have at home depot and lowes. Worst case there are spare parts in those packs.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Power Tools

every time i tried to build a battery pack I had the hardest time getting solder to stick to the cells. some cells no problemo, others were not sticking no matter what I did. tried different solders, sanding the the surface etc, etc, all the tricks i knew. finally went down to batteries plus. the had a "custom shop" and a little tool that kinda looked like a drill press that was a battery spot welder. it welded those thin strips to batteries, that thing was sweet.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Power Tools

You can get the cells from china for 13-15$ +15$ shipping on eBay. My best friend rebuilds his and the first one he rebuilt is over a year old going strong. I looked into converting to Lion but it was cheaper to get a new drill as there are several differences in the battery packs to keep the lion from getting too hot and exploding.

Did you try a high lead silver solder? I don't use anything else anymore. The only thing I still have issues with when soldering would be coated wire.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Power Tools

I haven't done anything with it. We use lead free silver solder for pipes.

If I were to send a dead battery to your friend, what would he charge to rebuild it?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Power Tools

Oh god I don't know but ill give him a call today. Honestly it's probably cheaper to do it your self or just buy the replacement battery, once you add in labor and shipping. You don't want to use plumbers solder for electronics though it contains an acid that will eat stranded wire over time and damage the batteries as well. Electronics solder has a similar yet milder acid that won't eat the wire. I find it odd that they still put the acid in plumbers solder considering its really just a cleaner and you usually have a pipe fitting apprentice who cleans it for you anyway not to mention the flux paste....
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