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Promaster FAQ :: Archived
The 2005 model bushmaster, also known as the "ProMaster" is in essence a new design.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:55 pm
Post subject: Promaster FAQ

This will be the main thread to build the Promaster FAQ

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Post subject: Re: Promaster FAQ

Dyemonic was kind enough to give us permission to use his sticky over here. It's basically his Promaster FAQ found over at Pbn with some of the links updated. Thanks to Madpooh, xXIsolatioNXx , manike, Spitlebug, Ben.haK, MecTurtleCocker and anyone else who has contributed to this body of knowledge.

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Technical%20support%20can%20also%20be%20reached%20via%20our%20e-mail%20support%20address:support@icdpaintball.com.%20However,%20we%20do%20not%20recommend%20using%20e-mail%20for%20lengthy%20technical%20support%20questions.” Online%20Manuals%20and%20Reference%20Material ICD%20Promaster%20Manual%20 Promaster%20Breakdown%20Schematics Promaster%20Board%20Programming Lasoya%20Promaster%20Board%20Programming Promaster%20Assembly%20Manual%20%20Warning:%20100%20page%20pdf! Valve%20Assembly%20Walkthrough Stock%20High%20Pressure%20Regulator%20Assembly%20Walkthrough Stock%20Low%20Pressure%20Regulator%20Assembly%20Walkthrough Promaster%20Troubleshooting%20Guide *If%20you%20have%20problems%20opening%20any%20PDF%20files,%20go%20to%20www.adobe.com%20and%20download%20Adobe%20Reader%20to%20have%20the%20proper%20program%20to%20open%20these%20files Originally%20Posted%20by%20manike If%20you%20already%20have%20the%20gun%20READ%20THE%20MANUAL%20FIRST,%20if%20not%20but%20just%20want%20to%20ask%20questions%20read%20below,%20then%20start%20a%20NEW%20thread%20if%20your%20question%20isn't%20answered. Air%20System You%20can%20use%20High%20Pressure%20(HP)%20or%20Low%20Pressure%20(LP)%20tanks%20with%20the%20Promaster.%20You%20can%20also%20use%20an%20adjustable%20tank,%20if%20you%20do,%20setting%20it%20to%20work%20like%20a%20low%20pressure%20tank%20at%20around%20400-450psi%20is%20a%20good%20idea. Barrels It%20takes%20any%20and%20all%20Autococker(tm)%20or%20Cocker(tm)%20barrels.%20This%20is%20the%20same%20as%20the%20intimidator,%20matrix,%20AKA%20guns%20and%20many%20others. Weight The%20gun%20out%20of%20the%20box,%20with%20regulator%20but%20without%20barrel%20weighs%201.997lbs Size Similar%20length%20as%20B2K4,%20but%20the%20Promaster%20is%20approx%200.765\"%20shorter%20than%20the%20B2K4%20because%20the%20tray%20has%20been%20removed. Board The%20stock%20board%20comes%20with%20semi,%20PSP%20and%20NXL%20modes.%20You%20can%20run%20it%20with%20a%2015bps%20cap,%20or%20unlimited%20(shoots%20as%20fast%20as%20your%20loader).%20The%20stock%20board%20is%20very%20good,%20and%20does%20not%20need%20to%20be%20upgraded%20immediately.%20If%20you%20want%20to%20upgrade%20it%20any%20board%20for%20the%20FS7%20Freestyles%20will%20work.%20This%20is%20the%20type%20of%20board%20where%20it%20is%20held%20in%20place%20by%20screws%20going%20through%20the%20microswitch. Modes%20are%20adjusted%20very%20easily%20via%20dip%20switches%20on%20the%20board:- Semi%20unlimited Semi%2015bps%20capped PSP%20(3%20pulls%20then%20ramping%20as%20long%20as%20you%20move%20your%20fingers)%20unlimited PSP%2015bps%20capped NXL%20(3%20pulls%20then%20hold%20on%20the%20fourth%20for%20Full%20Auto)%20unlimited NXL%2015bps%20capped. Dwell%20is%20adjusted%20by%20a%20dip%20switch%20and%20trigger%20pulls.%20Read%20the%20manual! The%20stock%20Lasoya%20board%20has%20a%20few%20more%20settings%20including%20debounce. For%20those%20that%20need%20a%20reference%20what%20to%20set%20their%20board%20to,%20here%20are%20the%20'stock'%20settings%20for%20the%20latest%20Kila%20board Kila%20board%20Version%202.4%20settings%20as%20it%20came%20from%20the%20factory%2012/1/10 Fire%20Mode:%20#2%20NXL%20Full%20Auto Debounce:%206ms Dwell:%208ms Delay:%200ms Eye%20Mode:%20On Bolt%20Delay:%2015ms ROF:%20Unlimited Ramp%20Activation%20Point:%203 Shot%20Sequence%20Registration%20(SSR):%202 Mechanical%20Bounce:%204 Failed%20Eye%20ROF:%2010bps Hopper%20Delay:%20Active High%20Pressure%20Inline%20Regulator You%20can%20swap%20this%20out%20for%20any%20inline%20regulator%20that%20you%20wish.%20One%20that%20works%20well%20between%20200-300psi%20is%20a%20good%20idea.%20%20Just%20make%20sure%20you%20don't%20get%20the%20Hyper%203's%20that%20are%20threaded%20for%20Dye%20markers. Low%20Pressure%20Regulator%20(the%20one%20just%20under%20the%20barrel) You%20can%20use%20LPR's%20from%20the%20Bushmaster%20guns%20but%20the%20spring%20guide%20is%20a%20slightly%20different%20length.%20You%20can%20use%20it%20as%20is,%20but%20it%20may%20affect%20performance%20slightly.%20It's%20recommended%20to%20use%20a%20spring%20two%20or%20three%20coils%20shorter%20if%20using%20a%20Bushmaster%20LPR.%20Or%20wait%20for%20specific%20LPR's%20to%20come%20out. Main%20Poppet%20Valves You%20can%20use%20Bushmaster/BKO%20valves,%20but%20some%20work%20and%20seal%20better%20than%20others.%20If%20it's%20not%20stated%20to%20work%20by%20the%20manufacturer%20then%20you%20take%20your%20own%20risk. Solenoid It's%20a%20Humphries%20HEA10F5-GL-101W.%20The%20same%20as%20used%20by%202k5%20Timmies. Feed%20Necks It%20takes%20all%20Bushmaster%20feednecks.%20This%20are%20similar%20but%20NOT%20exactly%20the%20same%20as%20impulse%20and%20angel%20feednecks.%20Some%20impulse%20and%20angel%20feednecks%20will%20fit%20and%20work%20ok,%20others%20will%20strip%20out%20and%20could%20damage%20your%20gun's%20body.%20It%20is%20recommended%20to%20get%20a%20proper%20Promaster/Bushmaster/Bko%20threaded%20feedneck.%20You%20can%20use%20one%20that%20is%20for%20a%20Impulse%20of%20Angel%20but%20at%20your%20own%20(and%20your%20gun's%20risk).%20The%20standard%20neck%20is%20sized%20to%20use%20a%20Halo%20or%20a%20slightly%20sanded%20halo.%20If%20you%20want%20to%20use%20other%20hoppers%20you%20may%20need%20to%20use%20electrical%20tape%20to%20make%20them%20fit%20tight,%20or%20get%20a%20clamping%20feedneck%20(which%20are%20readily%20available). Spider!%20has%20found%20out%20that%20the%20ICD%20threads%20are%20similar%20to%20Automage%20ULE%20body%20threads%20here%20in%20this%20thread www.icd-owners.com/htm...mp;t=16018 Triggers It%20takes%20the%20same%20triggers%20as%20Freestyles.%20You%20can%20swap%20them%20out%20very%20easily%20and%20choose%20the%20pivot%20point,%20as%20well%20as%20adjust%20the%20feel%20with%20three%20different%20screws. Ball%20Detents It%20uses%20the%20same%20ball%20detents%20as%20the%20Freestyle,%20these%20are%20EXCELLENT%20(in%20my%20opinion)%20and%20far%20better%20to%20any%20detents%20on%20the%20previous%20Bushmaster/BKO%20series.%20They%20work%20great%20with%20force%20feed%20loaders. Grips You%20can%20use%20pretty%20much%20any%2045%20style%20wraparound%20grips.%20The%20stock%20ones%20are%20hogue%20style%20with%20a%20palm%20swell.%20Not%20the%20prettiest%20but%20they%20are%20comfortable. Bolts You%20can%20use%20any%20bushmater/BKO%20bolt.%20The%20stock%20bolt%20is%20pretty%20good%20though.%20It%20is%20small%20and%20light%20with%20good%20flow,%20not%20something%20you%20need%20to%20upgrade/change%20straight%20away. Eyes The%20eyes%20are%203mm%20breakbeam%20eyes.%20They%20work%20great%20with%20ANY%20paint.%20It%20doesn't%20matter%20what%20color%20or%20brand%20or%20shell%20etc. QEV The%20gun%20already%20comes%20with%20a%20QEV%20on%20the%20ram%20to%20help%20it%20cycle%20faster. Manual READ%20the%20manual%20before%20using%20the%20gun,%20it%20is%20a%20good%20manual%20that%20tells%20you%20how%20to%20look%20after%20the%20gun%20and%20change%20any%20settings%20you%20need%20to.%20 Lube Dow%2033%20or%20Superlube%20Grease%20works.%20Only%20lube%20the%20gun%20when%20it%20needs%20it. Quote%2063VDub \"you%20will%20need%20to%20lube%20the%20orings%20on%20the%20HPR%20piston,%20LPR%20piston,%20and%20the%20ram%20orings.%20all%20three%20require%20a%20teardown%20of%20the%20component%20to%20get%20to.%20thankfully,%20once%20they%20are%20lubed%20correctly,%20it's%20just%20a%20periodic%20thing.%20Once%20every%207-8%20cases%20depending%20on%20use%20and%20abuse.\"%20 Summary%20of%20Differences%20between%20Promaster%20and%20previous%20Bushmaster%20guns. -no%20tray%20(new%20noid%20in%20grip) -new%20milling -ramping%20board -freestyle%20reg%20 -pds%20standard -lower%20mass%20bolt -QEV -Updated%20ram%20design -Freestyle%20trigger%20set%20up -Freestyle%20detents%20set%20up%20 -3mm%20Eyes -Compatible%20with%20latest%20freestyle%20boards. The%20Lasoya%20Promaster%20is%20described%20as%20having%20the%20following: Dual%20gauge%20block%20and%20micro%20gauges%20for%20LPR%20(Low%20Pressure%20Reg)%20and%20HPR%20(High%20Pressure%20Reg) Custom%20anodized%20Vigilante%20HPR%20(different%20design%20than%20the%20other%20ICD%20markers) Speed%20Ramp%20Teflon%20bolt%20with%20curved%20top%20to%20further%20reduce%20paint%20breakage.%20Bolt%20also%20has%20ball%20detent%20grooves%20and%20bolt%20can%20be%20removed%20without%20having%20to%20entirely%20pull%20out%20the%20bolt%20pin Smooth%20low%20profile%20lightweight%20body Dust%20finish%20fade%20anodizing New%20style%20LPR%20housing%20and%20Ram%20Cap%20have%20Quick%20Clean%20grooves.%20The%20grooves%20make%20it%20much%20easier%20to%20do%20disassembly%20by%20hand,%20but%20also%20wipe%20clean%20with%20a%20finger%20tip.%20When%20playing%20X-ball%20you%20don't%20want%20to%20spend%20hours%20getting%20paint%20out%20of%20every%20nook%20and%20cranny Low%20rise%20feed%20neck New%20trigger New%20board%20functionality%20-%20far%20more%20adjustment%20possibilities%20including%20multiple%20firing%20modes%20and%20adjustable%20\"debounce\" Cut%20out%20in%20the%20grip%20frame%20to%20allow%20you%20to%20put%20the%20battery%20in%20without%20removing%20the%20frame%20side.%20(need%20to%20use%20metal%20sleeved%20brand%20name%20batteries%20like%20Duracell%20and%20Energizer,%20some%20rechargeable%20batteries%20have%20a%20thick%20plastic%20casing%20on%20the%20batteries%20that%20makes%20installation%20and%20removal%20tight) The%20Standard%20Promaster%20is%20described%20as: Low%20pressure%20operation:%20250-300psi%20normally%20adjusted%20via%20the%20gauge%20on%20the%20primary%20(input)%20regulator Threaded%20low%20rise%20vertical%20feed%20tube Quick%20pull%20pin%20for%20easy%20field-stripping On/off%20indicating%20LED Adjustable%20balls%20per%20second Semi%20auto%20firing%20mode 4-way%20adjustable%20trigger Battery%20and%20board%20in%20grip%20for%20easy%20access Wrap%20around%20rubber%20grip%20panels Accepts%20standard%20.45%20grip%20panels 12%20inch%20ported%20barrel%20with%20autococker/timmy%20threads Paintball%20detection%20system%20so%20you%20never%20chop%20paint Delrin%20bolt Accepts%20standard%20duckbills%20and%20drop%20forwards Low%20profile Uses%20a%20single%209%20volt%20battery%20for%20operation So,%20what%20differentiates%20the%20two?%20Well... -The%20Lasoya%20has%20a%20straight%20rear%20cut,%20while%20the%20standard%20model%20has%20an%20Intimidator%20style%20cut. -The%20Lasoya's%20board%20has%20an%20adjustable%20debounce%20setting,%20while%20the%20standard%20model%20does%20not. -With%20the%20Lasoya,%20it%20is%20easier%20to%20remove%20the%20battery. -The%20Lasoya%20has%20a%20different,%20lighter%20bolt,%20with%20detent%20milling. -The%20Lasoya%20comes%20in%20dust%20anodization,%20while%20the%20standard%20model%20comes%20in%20gloss%20colors. -The%20triggers%20are%20different,%20preference%20desides%20which%20is%20better. -The%20feedneck%20is%20the%20same,%20just%20lower%20profile%20than%20the%20one%20found%20on%20the%20Standard%20Promaster. -The%20Lasoya%20has%20a%20different%20operating%20pressure%20gauge. -The%20Lasoya%20has%20an%20Air%20America%20Vigilante%20regulator,%20instead%20of%20the%20lame%20ICD%20reg%20found%20on%20the%20standard%20model. -The%20Lasoya%20has%20an%20LPR%20gauge%20in%20addition%20to%20the%20OPR%20gauge. -The%20Lasoya's%20LPR%20has%20a%20different%20housing%20from%20the%20standard%20model. At%20the%20end%20of%20the%20day,%20the%20Lasoya%20is%20a%20better%20marker%20stock.%20You%20can%20make%20the%20choice%20on%20which%20you%20would%20rather%20buy Comparing%20the%20promaster%20and%20lasoya%20PM What%20does%20a%20Promaster%20need%20out%20of%20the%20box? -ASA(bottomline) -Macro%20and%202%2090*%20elboes(*sometimes*%20included%20with%20the%20promaster) -N2%20tank(preferably%20HP) -Drop/rail(unless%20the%20ASA%20is%20a%20direct%20mount) Is%20it%20ok%20to%20leave%20the%20battery%20in%20the%20gun%20connected%20to%20the%20prongs%20at%20all%20times? It%20is%20perfectly%20fine%20to%20leave%20it%20connected,%20the%20battery%20will%20not%20drain%20or%20have%20risk%20of%20any%20damages%20from%20leaving%20it%20in.%20It%20can%20only%20lose%20energy%20if%20the%20gun%20is%20turned%20on%20with%20the%20battery%20connected. Where%20can%20i%20buy%20new%20internal(poly%20tubing)%20hose? McMaster-Carr%20has%20the%20hose%20in%20most%20any%20color.%20Go%20to%20www.mcmaster.com%20and%20search%20for%20part%20number%205648K23.%20Specify%20color%20when%20ordering.%20Price%20is%20$0.17/ft.,%20so%20buy%205%20feet%20for%20less%20than%20$10%20with%20shipping. Either%20buy%203/32%20or%201/16.%203/32%20is%20more%20preferred%20however. Why%20can%20my%20gun%20run%20on%20very%20low%20PSI(100psi%20for%20example)? This%20is%20because%20the%20way%20you%20set%20your%20gun,%20you%20are%20able%20to%20make%20it%20operate%20at%20such%20low%20pressures%20and%20get%20decent%20FPS,%20but%20you%20will%20experience%20horrible%20efficiency,%20consistency,%20etc...%20When%20adjusting%20the%20gun,%20aim%20for%20an%20equally%20balanced%20gun,%20to%20have%20good%20efficiency,%20consitency,%20kick,%20etc...%20without%20%20majorly%20affecting%20one%20or%20another.%20Look%20for%20the%20\"balancing%20the%20regulator\"%20tutorial%20to%20help%20you%20come%20close%20to%20a%20well%20balanced%20gun. Is%20there%20a%20need%20to%20get%20an%20after%20market%20bolt%20for%20my%20%20ProMaster%20(ex:ACP%20bolt)? There%20is%20absolutely%20no%20need%20to%20get%20a%20new%20bolt%20unless%20your's%20is%20lost,%20broken,%20or%20causes%20severe%20blow%20back.%20The%20stock%20bolt%20is%20perfectly%20fine,%20it's%20light%20and%20you%20shouldn't%20experience%20any%20blow%20back.%20So%20as%20long%20as%20your%20stock%20bolt%20is%20fine,%20don't%20upgrade%20it%20unless%20you%20need%20a%20new%20bolt%20for%20reasons%20of%20the%20stock%20one%20being%20defective,%20but%20then%20again,%20you%20can%20always%20buy%20the%20stock%20bolt%20at%20stores%20online. Will%20the%20LPM%20vertical%20ASA%20fit%20on%20the%20regular%20Promaster? Just%20a%20simple%20answer,%20yes%20it%20will. Noid%20information: Humphreys%20Model%20HEA10F5-GL-101W%20%20Warning:%2060%20page%20pdf! www.zdspb.com/tech/mis...phrey.html Need%20more%20information%20about%20servicing%20your%20Promaster%20solenoid? Try%20perusing%20this%20thread. www.icd-owners.com/htm...mp;t=15642 My%20gun%20isn't%20shooting%20at%20all%20when%20I%20pull%20the%20trigger.%20%20The%20marker%20detects%20the%20paintball%20and%20I%20hear%20the%20solenoid%20click,%20%20but%20the%20gun%20does%20not%20cycle. Make%20sure%20the%20marker%20is%20aired%20up%20at%20correct%20psi.%20%20Verify%20it%20isn't%20leaking%20from%20inside%20the%20grip%20frame.%20%20Make%20sure%20there%20are%20no%20blockages%20or%20kinks%20in%20the%20hoses%20and%20double%20check%20your%20LPR.%20%20If%20none%20of%20this%20solves%20the%20problem%20it%20could%20be%20that%20you%20need%20to%20manually%20cycle%20the%20spool%20in%20the%20noid%20to%20get%20it%20'unstuck' Try%20pressing%20the%20little%20red%20button%20on%20the%20noid%20while%20your%20marker%20is%20gassed%20up.%20%20Warning:%20Make%20sure%20nothing%20is%20in%20the%20breech!%20This%20will%20cycle%20the%20marker.%20 If%20you%20have%20verified%20that%20it%20is%20not%20any%20other%20part%20of%20the%20marker%20then%20it%20could%20be%20the%20solenoid%20that%20needs%20some%20attention.%20%20Make%20sure%20your%20grip%20screws%20are%20cut%20down%20short%20and%20not%20physically%20contacting%20the%20noid.%20%20Below%20is%20a%20link%20to%20help%20you%20if%20you%20need%20to%20cut%20down%20your%20grip%20screws.%20 www.icd-owners.com/htm...mp;t=15703 Do%20I%20need%20to%20lube%20the%20valve? No%20you%20do%20not.%20The%20valve%20its%20self%20is%20not%20moving%20so%20therefor%20no%20lube%20is%20required.%20Although%20the%20valve%20stem%20does%20move,%20it%20does%20not%20need%20lube%20either.%20However,%20if%20you%20find%20it%20difficult%20to%20put%20the%20valve%20back%20in%20the%20gun,%20you%20can%20apply%20a%20little%20lube%20onto%20the%20orings%20to%20help%20it%20slide%20in%20better%20(but%20pushing%20it%20in%20with%20a%20pencil%20works%20just%20fine).%20 Where%20can%20i%20purchase%20a%20rebuild%20kit? www.shop.icdproducts.c...all_c2.htm or Ebay%20still%20has%20a%20good%20selection%20of%20parts%20kits%20for%20ICD%20markers. How%20does%20one%20get%20the%20kink%20out%20of%20the%20LP%20house%20from%20the%20noid%20to%20ram%20out(for%20better%20airflow%20there)? One%20way%20is%20to%20get%20a%20longer%20piece%20of%20LP%20tubing%20and%20make%20a%20loop%20with%20it%20and%20connect%20it%20to%20both%20barbs(no%20pic%20availible%20that%20i%20can%20find%20currently). Another%20way%20is%20to%20buy%20a%2090*%20barb%20and%20replace%20it%20with%20the%20one%20that%20goes%20to%20the%20ram%20assembly,%20then%20get%20a%20longer%20piece%20of%20tubing%20and%20make%20an%20arch%20almost%20with%20it%20going%20to%20the%20back%20of%20the%20gun%20to%20the%2090*%20barb. img511.imageshack.us/i...008un5.jpg%20(pic%20courtesy%20of%20RTisgood). img148.imageshack.us/i...097zz5.jpg%20(pic%20courtesy%20of%20JoeJoeBob;different%20loop%20style) Coil%20back%20around%20the%20QEV%20style What%20are%20some%20of%20the%20recommended%20upgrades%20to%20get%20out%20of%20the%20box? -Valve(Vapor,%20Zeni,%20Ebay,%20etc..) -HPR(CP,%20Det.,%202-Liter,%20etc...) -Feedneck%20(CCM%20or%20AKA%20-%20Bushmaster%20threaded%20ONLY!) -ICDU%20Ram%20Assembly%20(although%20hard%20to%20find,%20this%20is%20one%20of%20the%20best%20upgrades%20you%20can%20buy%20for%20the%20Promaster) Which%20hole%20on%20the%20stock%20HPR/reg%20does%20the%20elbow%20go%20into,%20and%20which%20do%20i%20block? It%20does%20not%20matter%20which%20hole%20you%20put%20the%20elboe%20in%20for%20the%20macroline.%20You%20just%20need%20to%20make%20sure%20you%20use%20one%20and%20the%20other%20is%20blocked%20off.%20 HP%20vs%20LP...Which%20one%20do%20i%20choose? Either%20works.%20There%20are%20advantages%20and%20disadvantages%20of%20each.%20For%20one,%20HP%20works%20on%20most%20guns%20out%20there%20today,%20but%20it%20is%20a%20little%20rough%20on%20the%20internals,%20but%20that's%20what%20the%20HPR%20is%20for,%20to%20lower%20the%20pressure%20before%20it%20gets%20into%20your%20gun.%20With%20LP,%20although%20it%20is%20lighter%20on%20the%20internals,%20not%20many%20guns%20prefer%20LP%20tanks.%20So%20the%20smart%20choice%20would%20be%20to%20go%20with%20HP%20because%20it%20still%20works%20perfectly%20fine%20on%20the%20PM,%20and%20if%20you%20ever%20decide%20to%20get%20a%20new%20gun,%20chances%20are%20HP%20will%20work%20with%20it%20as%20well.%20 How%20do%20you%20turn%20the%20Eyes/PDS%20off%20on%20a%20LPM? Simple.%20%20Turn%20the%20marker%20off.%20%20Hold%20down%20the%20trigger.%20%20Turn%20the%20marker%20on.%20%20Keep%20the%20trigger%20held%20down%20for%20approximately%205%20seconds%20and%20the%20LED%20will%20start%20flashing.%20%20You%20are%20now%20in%20dry%20fire%20mode%20with%20your%20current%20ROF%20settings%20enabled.%20%20If%20you%20would%20like%20to%20dry%20fire%20with%20a%20limited%20ROF%20(10%20or%2013bps)%20just%20repeat%20the%20above%20steps%20but%20only%20hold%20the%20trigger%20down%20for%202%20seconds%20instead%20of%205. Quote: Originally%20Posted%20by%20xXIsolatioNXx%20%20 What%20are%20the%20differences%20between%20the%20Lasoya%20ProMaster%20and%20the%20regular%20ProMaster?%20Which%20is%20better? The%20Lasoya%20ProMaster%20is%20essentially%20a%20normal%20ProMaster%20with%20different%20milling,%20anodizing%20and%20a%20few%20improved%20parts.%20The%20normal%20ProMaster%20is%20available%20in%20blue,%20red,%20black,%20and%20silver%20gloss%20where%20as%20the%20Lasoya%20is%20available%20in%20blue-black%20dust%20fade,%20red-black%20dust%20fade,%20yellow-black%20dust%20fade%20and%20grey-black%20dust%20fade.%20It%20also%20features%20a%20new%20regulator%20similar%20to%20a%20Vigilante%20Regulator,%20a%20different%20board%20with%20a%20few%20more%20features,%20and%20an%20LPR%20gauge,%20and%20also%20a%20new%20trigger.%20From%20a%20performance%20standpoint%20the%20Lasoya%20is%20the%20better%20marker,%20and%20at%20the%20time%20of%20writing%20this%20article%20the%20Lasoya%20is%20selling%20cheaper%20then%20the%20normal%20ProMaster%20so%20I%20definitely%20encourage%20picking%20one%20up.%20All%20Lasoya%20and%20ProMaster%20parts%20are%20interchangeable.%20 What%20threads%20are%20the%20feedneck%20of%20my%20ProMaster/Lasoya%20ProMaster?%20Are%20they%20Smart%20Parts%20threads? The%20feedneck%20threads%20on%20the%20ProMaster%20and%20Lasoya%20ProMaster%20are%20Bushmaster%20threads%20and%20ONLY%20bushmaster%20threads.%20There%20are%20no%20Smart%20Parts/ICD%20threads,%20because%20the%20two%20are%20slightly%20different.%20Do%20NOT%20believe%20online%20stores%20that%20claim%20Smart%20Parts%20threads%20are%20the%20same%20because%20simply%20put%20they%20are%20not,%20and%20you%20risk%20stripping%20your%20threads,%20and%20your%20warranty%20is%20also%20void%20using%20any%20non-true%20ICD%20threads.%20Recommended%20feednecks%20that%20come%20in%20Bushmaster%20threadings%20would%20be%20the%20CCM%20line%20of%20feednecks,%20as%20well%20as%20those%20produced%20by%20AKA.%20 How%20do%20I%20zero%20out%20the%20regs%20and%20tune%20my%20ProMaster? To%20zero%20out%20the%20regs,%20remove%20your%20air%20source%20then%20proceed%20to%20back%20out%20both%20your%20HPR%20and%20LPR.%20Now%20when%20you%20screw%20on%20air%20your%20HPR%20gauge%20should%20read%200%20(and%20if%20you%20have%20a%20Lasoya,%20your%20LPR%20gauge%20should%20read%200%20as%20well).%20Your%20regs%20are%20now%20zeroed%20out.%20Proceed%20to%20set%20your%20HPR%20at%20desired%20pressure,%20then%20turn%20in%20LPR%20until%20the%20bolt%20cocks%20back%20fully,%20and%20proceed%20to%20turn%20an%20additional%20half%20turn%20past%20cocking.%20Now%20chrono%20your%20marker,%20adjusting%20the%20HPR%20to%20achieve%20desired%20velocity.%20**NOTE%20IT%20IS%20HIGHLY%20RECOMMENDED%20TO%20ZERO%20OUT%20YOUR%20REGS%20BEFORE%20GASSING%20UP%20FOR%20THE%20FIRST%20TIME%20TO%20PREVENT%20BLOWING%20THE%20NOID!**%20 There%20is%20a%20leaking%20noise%20coming%20from%20my%20grip%20frame.%20What%20do%20I%20do? First%20off,%20don’t%20panic.%20The%20most%20common%20problem%20here%20is%20that%20you%20have%20the%20pressure%20of%20your%20LPR%20set%20too%20high.%20The%20ProMaster%20automatically%20begins%20to%20release%20air%20when%20the%20LPR%20is%20dangerously%20high,%20so%20try%20turning%20that%20down.%20If%20the%20leak%20persists,%20check%20the%20hosing%20inside%20the%20grip%20frame,%20and%20ensure%20all%20hosing%20is%20mounted%20correctly.%20Inspect%20for%20leaks,%20replacing%20where%20necessary.%20If%20problem%20persists%20please%20ask%20for%20assistance%20here%20here%20or%20contact%20ICD%20directly.%20 Is%20there%20an%20easier%20way%20to%20change%20the%20battery? If%20you%20have%20a%20Lasoya%20ProMaster%20or%20a%202k6%20and%20later%20ProMaster%20then%20this%20problem%20does%20not%20concern%20you.%20Older%20ProMasters%20required%20that%20you%20remove%20one%20side%20of%20the%20clamshell%20in%20order%20to%20install%20a%20battery%20due%20to%20an%20inconveniently%20designed%20grip%20frame.%20The%20only%20way%20to%20fix%20this%20problem%20would%20be%20to%20cut%20away%20the%20piece%20of%20metal%20covering%20the%20battery%20yourself.%20*NOTE%20THAT%20THIS%20VOIDS%20YOUR%20WARRANTY%20INDEFINETLY!%20 How%20do%20I%20turn%20off%20the%20eyes%20on%20my%20ProMaster%20so%20I%20can%20dry%20fire? When%20gun%20is%20off,%20set%20dipswitches%20to%20desired%20mode.%20Proceed%20to%20hold%20trigger%20and%20turn%20gun%20on,%20waiting%20until%20the%20LED%20turns%20from%20solid%20to%20blinking.%20You%20may%20now%20dry%20fire%20your%20marker. Why%20does%20my%20ProMaster’s%20LED%20blink?%20Is%20this%20normal? Yes,%20the%20LED%20blinks%20when%20the%20gun%20is%20on,%20don’t%20panic. How%20do%20I%20remove%20the%20feedneck? A%20lot%20of%20people%20ask%20this%20rather%20simple%20question.%20The%20best%20solution%20is%20to%20get%20a%20strap%20wrench%20and%20simply%20twist%20it%20off.%20Sometimes%20your%20feedneck%20has%20an%20adnormal%20amount%20of%20loc-tite%20on%20it,%20in%20which%20case%20I%20encourage%20heating%20up%20the%20feedneck%20(a%20hair%20drier%20works,%20as%20well%20as%20a%20lighter)%20and%20twisting%20off%20with%20a%20strap%20wrench%20after%20the%20loc%20tite%20has%20been%20heated%20up.%20You%20can%20always%20use%20brute%20force%20with%20a%20wrench,%20but%20you%20will%20scratch%20off%20the%20anodizing. If%20you%20don't%20have%20a%20strap%20wrench%20but%20access%20to%20a%20vice%20try%20this:%20Put%20the%20marker%20upside%20down%20and%20clamp%20down%20the%20feedneck%20in%20the%20vice%20in%20between%20two%20blocks%20of%20wood%20and%20tighten%20the%20vice%20down.%20%20Simply%20unscrew%20the%20marker%20from%20the%20feedneck%20at%20this%20point. How%20do%20I%20take%20apart%20the%20regs? Use%20a%20strap%20wrench%20to%20twist%20off%20the%20top%20third,%20and%20the%20bottom%20third%20should%20be%20easily%20removed%20by%20hand.%20Then%20proceed%20to%20follow%20the%20various%20reg%20disassembly/lubing%20guides%20in%20the%20stickies. If%20you%20don't%20have%20a%20strap%20wrench,%20I%20recommend%20you%20use%20some%20sort%20of%20rubber%20between%20your%20wrench%20and%20the%20regulator%20so%20you%20prevent%20scratches.%20%20I%20like%20to%20use%20old%20rubber%20inner%20tubes.%20%20If%20you%20wrap%20the%20rubber%20just%20right,%20you%20sometimes%20may%20not%20even%20need%20a%20wrench. What%20does%20HPR%20and%20LPR%20mean? HPR%20stands%20for%20High%20Pressure%20Regulator,%20the%20vertical%20regulator%20you%20grab%20onto%20with%20your%20front%20hand.%20LPR%20is%20Low%20Pressure%20Regulator,%20the%20one%20located%20under%20your%20barrel. Is%20the%20stock%20barrel%20good?%20What%20paint%20should%20I%20use%20in%20it? The%20stock%20barrel%20is%20fine%20for%20medium%20sized%20paint.%20I%20personally%20enjoy%20using%20Xball%20bronze,%20but%20other%20cheaper%20paints%20have%20been%20to%20work%20nicely%20as%20well. Does%20dying%20the%20bolt%20effect%20efficiency/consistency/performance? I%20personally%20have%20not%20noticed%20any%20difference%20in%20performance%20since%20dying%20my%20bolt.%20Note%20that%20over%20time%20the%20dye%20does%20tend%20to%20ware%20away%20from%20all%20the%20friction,%20but%20it%20doesn't%20effect%20or%20hinder%20performance Can%20I%20use%20CO2%20on%20my%20ProMaster? Yes,%20but%20I%20highly%20advise%20against%20it,%20especially%20unsiphoned%20CO2.%20The%20freezing%20liquid%20can%20really%20damage%20the%20marker’s%20delicate%20internals.%20If%20you%20have%20the%20proper%20reg%20set%20up%20though,%20with%20an%20anti-siphoned%20CO2%20tank%20and%20anti-siphon,%20then%20you%20will%20be%20able%20to%20get%20good%20performance%20with%20CO2.%20Unless%20you%20have%20the%20proper%20setup%20though,%20I%20don’t%20even%20suggest%20screwing%20on%20a%20CO2%20tank.%20I%20would%20not%20recommend%20CO2%20without%20at%20least%20dual%20PPS%20Stabilizers,%20and%20line%20filter%20(AKA%20makes%20one),%20as%20well%20as%20an%20anti-siphoned%20CO2%20tank%20(note%20it%20is%20not%20recommended%20to%20purchase%20a%20CO2%20tank%20that%20has%20the%20anti%20siphon%20rod%20pre-installed%20as%20it%20may%20not%20line%20up%20correctly%20for%20your%20ASA,%20and%20provide%20to%20benefit)%20 All%20in%20all%20the%20cost%20of%20running%20a%20safe%20CO2%20setup%20is%20equal%20to%20or%20even%20surpases%20the%20cost%20of%20a%20great%20quality%20HPA%20tank,%20so%20unless%20HPA%20is%20simply%20not%20an%20option%20I%20highly%20advise%20skipping%20over%20CO2. I%20lost%20some%20of%20the%20screws%20for%20my%20frame.%20What%20do%20I%20do? Buy%20a%20replacement%20set%20from%20https://www.markerkits.com/splashPage.hg%20 Simple,%20right?%20 How%20fast%20is%20a%20completely%20stock%20ProMaster? On%20a%20completely%20stock%20ProMaster%20set%20into%20unlimited%20ramp,%20you%20should%20be%20able%20to%20achieve%20speeds%20between%2016%20and%2018%20Balls%20Per%20Second.%20This%20speed%20can%20be%20improved%20with%20aftermarket%20parts. Are%20the%20Empire%20AA%20valves%20good? When%20they%20work,%20yes.%20Many%20people%20have%20had%20problems%20with%20them%20not%20sitting%20correctly%20or%20causing%20excessive%20leaks.%20Some%20members%20reported%20that%20using%20large%20quantities%20of%20lube%20on%20the%20valve%20orings%20can%20help.%20A%20poppit%20valve%20guide%20is%20needed%20unless%20you%20want%20the%20sealing%20face%20to%20be%20chipped%20an%20unusable.%20 Other%20than%20that%20the%20valve%20has%20good%20performance,%20and%20there%20is%20also%20an%20Air%20Assist%20valve%20in%20the%20works%20by%20Lucky%20Paintball,%20yet%20it%20has%20been%20(to%20quote):%20\"put%20on%20the%20backburner%20along%20with%20several%20other%20products\"%20and%20there%20is%20still%20not%20set%20or%20estimated%20release%20date. What%20is%20trigger%20bounce,%20and%20how%20do%20I%20get%20rid%20of%20it? Trigger%20bounce%20is%20when,%20in%20semi%20auto%20mode,%20the%20marker%20fires%20more%20then%20once%20per%20trigger%20pull.%20Often%20times%20cause%20by%20too%20short%20or%20sensitive%20trigger%20pull,%20the%20marker%20just%20begins%20to%20“bounce”%20the%20trigger%20when%20it%20fires,%20causing%20often%20sporadic%20and%20uncontrollable%20fire.%20This%20can%20be%20very%20dangerous,%20and%20please%20ensure%20your%20gun%20is%20bounce%20free%20while%20playing.%20Getting%20an%20aftermarket%20board%20that%20allows%20adjustable%20debounce%20or%20increasing%20the%20trigger%20pull/tension%20are%20two%20ways%20to%20eliminate%20bounce.%20The%20Lasoya%20ProMaster,%20as%20an%20additional%20feature%20on%20the%20board,%20allows%20the%20user%20to%20adjust%20denounce%20(like%20after%20market%20boards%20mentioned%20prior).%20This%20is%20a%20very%20handy%20feature%20if%20you%20are%20getting%20excessive%20bounce.%20It's%20best%20to%20set%20debounce%20as%20low%20as%20you%20can%20yet%20not%20have%20any%20bounce%20what-so-ever.%20If%20your%20debounce%20is%20set%20too%20high%20then%20it%20can%20limit%20your%20max%20firing%20rate%20with%20your%20marker. Do%20all%20Freestyle%20boards%20fit%20into%20the%20ProMaster? Not%20quite.%20All%20Freestyle%20Pro,%20FS7%20and%20FS8%20boards%20are%20compatible%20with%20the%20Promaster%20boards,%20but%20anything%20prior%20to%20those%20are%20not Do%20ProMaster’s%20work%20well%20with%20eggs%20(aka%20Evolution%202’s%20or%203’s)? If%20you%20want%20to%20shoot%20real%20fast,%20then%20generally%20not%20too%20well.%20Eggs%20are%20only%20semi%20force%20feed,%20which%20means%20they%20are%20prone%20to%20blowback%20which%20often%20results%20in%20chopping%20balls.%20I%20highly%20recommend%20a%20true%20force%20feed%20loader%20(Halo%20B,%20Reloader%20B,%20Vlocity,%20Vlocity%20Jr,%20Pulse,%20and%20Q-loader%20are%20all%20options) How%20often%20should%20I%20lube%20everything? I%20recommend%20lubing%20your%20gun%20every%204-5%20cases,%20or%20if%20you%20haven’t%20played%20for%20a%20fair%20amount%20of%20time. Will%20cocker%20hosing%20work%20as%20internal%20hose%20for%20my%20ProMaster? Yes,%20but%20it%20may%20be%20very%20difficult%20to%20get%20it%20to%20fit%20on%20the%20stock%20barbs.%20Personally%20I%20could%20not%20get%20cocker%20hosing%20to%20work%20correctly,%20but%20other%20members%20have%20reported%20success,%20so%20feel%20free%20to%20try%20it%20out%20if%20you%20have%20some.%20Note%20though%20it%20is%20recommended%20to%20get%20the%20same%20sized%20hosing%20used%20stock%20(Lp%20tubing%20size%203/32%20or%203.32%20ID).%20Link%20to%20said%20tubing%20located%20a%20few%20questions%20above Is%20this%20the%20right%20gun%20for%20me? That%20depends.%20Are%20you%20looking%20for%20a%20gun%20that%20rips%20out%20of%20the%20box%20and%20is%20one%20of%20the%20best%20bangs%20for%20the%20buck%20out%20there,%20but%20requires%20more%20love%20and%20care%20then%20a%20standard%20blowback?%20The%20decision%20is%20yours,%20not%20ours.%20 What%20will%20a%20new%20valve%20do?%20What%20will%20a%20new%20ram%20do? A%20new%20valve%20will%20increase%20efficiency%20by%20a%20lot,%20often%20times%20reduce%20kick,%20and%20make%20shots%20more%20consistent.%20A%20new%20ram%20will%20reduce%20kick%20a%20lot%20and%20increase%20CPS. How%20long%20will%20the%20battery%20last? Not%20sure%20on%20exact%20time,%20but%20generally%20speaking%20I%20change%20my%20battery%20every%2010-15%20cases What%20is%20the%20best%20HPR%20for%20a%20ProMaster? HPR’s%20good%20on%20one%20gun%20will%20be%20good%20on%20another.%20Get%20a%20quality%20reg%20with%20high%20recharge%20rate%20and%20you’ll%20be%20happy. What%20board%20should%20I%20get? Whatever%20suits%20your%20fancy.%20Currently%20the%20only%20choices%20are%20Kila%20Drive%20board,%20NOX%20board,%20and%20Chaos%20board.%20I%20personally%20own%20a%20Kila%20Drive%20board%20and%20find%20it%20great,%20but%20it%20is%20dip-switch%20orientated%20like%20the%20stock%20board.%20The%20NOX%20board%20is%20the%20most%20popular%20choice%20and%20is%20LED%20flashes/trigger%20pull%20operated.%20The%20Chaos%20board,%20which%20is%20certainly%20underrated%20for%20it’s%20performance,%20allows%20trigger/flash%20programming%20like%20NOX%20as%20well%20as%20fully%20customizable%20programming%20by%20connecting%20the%20board%20to%20a%20PC%20via%20Vlink.%20I%20recommend%20checking%20out%20this%20thread,%20in%20addition%20to%20doing%20your%20own%20research,%20to%20find%20the%20board%20that%20best%20suits%20you.%20 Where%20can%20I%20find%20a%20delrin%20boltpin? On%20Ebay,%20by%20the%20same%20man%20who%20sells%20Ebay%20valves.%20You%20can%20also%20make%20your%20own. How%20can%20I%20tell%20what%20the%20LPR%20is%20at? On%20a%20regular%20promaster,%20it%20can%20be%20difficult.%20When%20the%20adjuster%20cap%20is%20flush%20with%20the%20LPR%20you%20are%20around%200%20PSI,%20and%20just%20go%20from%20there. Does%20it%20matter%20what%20side%20I%20put%20the%20fittings%20on%20the%20HPR? No,%20it’s%20just%20personal%20preference.%20Be%20sure%20to%20but%20a%20Teflon-taped%20grub%20screw%20on%20the%20hole%20you%20do%20not%20use,%20though(note%20the%20screw%20comes%20with%20the%20marker) Is%20it%20true%20the%20ProMaster%20breaks%20easily%20and%20leaks%20a%20lot? Like%20any%20gun%20there%20are%20lemons%20that%20are%20broken%20out%20of%20the%20box,%20but%20so%20far%20my%20ProMaster%20has%20been%20the%20most%20reliable%20marker%20I’ve%20owned.%20If%20you%20take%20your%20time%20to%20learn%20the%20marker%20and%20how%20to%20operate%20and%20maintain%20it%20correctly,%20you%20will%20get%20a%20long%20and%20happy%20life%20out%20of%20it What%20is%20regulator%20creeping?%20How%20can%20I%20tell%20if%20my%20reg%20is%20creeping?%20How%20do%20I%20fix%20it? Regulator%20creeping%20is%20when%20the%20output%20pressure%20of%20your%20regulator%20slowly%20raises%20past%20the%20point%20where%20you%20set%20it,%20\"creeping\"%20into%20high%20numbers%20that%20can%20damage%20the%20gun.%20You%20can%20tell%20when%20your%20reg%20is%20creeping%20by%20keeping%20a%20sharp%20eye%20on%20your%20HPR%20gauge.%20If%20you%20notice%20that%20(with%20air%20in%20the%20gun)%20the%20gauge%20has%20gone%20up%20over%20time,%20then%20your%20reg%20is%20creeping.%20To%20fix,%20disassemble%20your%20regulator%20and%20inspect%20piston%20orings%20and%20the%20seal%20to%20ensure%20proper%20fit.%20Clean%20where%20necessary,%20replace%20anything%20that%20may%20be%20damaged,%20and%20lube%20the%20orings.%20If%20your%20gauge%20still%20creeps%20then%20you%20can%20either%20contact%20ICD%20for%20further%20assistance%20or%20buy%20an%20after%20market%20regulator Is%20the%20stock%20regulator%20any%20good? This%20is%20a%20rather%20difficult%20question%20to%20answer,%20as%20there%20have%20been%20very%20mixed%20and%20conflicting%20opinions%20on%20the%20stock%20ProMaster%20regulator.%20In%20my%20own%20experience%20the%20stock%20regulator%20was%20fantastic.%20After%20I%20had%20put%20about%2020%20cases%20through%20it%20I%20was%20getting%20a%20consistent%20velocity%20fluctuation%20of%20+/-3%20FPS,%20often%20times%20I%20would%20get%20+/-2%20FPS.%20So%20I%20was%20getting%20fantastic%20performance.%20My%20only%20reason%20for%20upgrading%20from%20the%20stock%20were%20cosmetic%20and%20comfort%20reasons. Then%20others%20have%20had%20horrible%20experiences%20with%20them,%20some%20creeping%20uncontrollably%20and%20others%20being%20horribly%20inconsistent.%20you'll%20really%20need%20to%20test%20out%20your%20regulator%20for%20yourself%20and%20see%20how%20your%20reg%20performs.%20Be%20sure%20to%20break%20it%20in%20before%20giving%20final%20judgment%20on%20it! Is%20the%20stock%20trigger%20any%20good? The%20stock%20trigger%20on%20the%20ProMaster%20is%20a%20great%20stock%20trigger,%20providing%20four%20adjustment%20points%20(pre%20adjustment,%20post%20adjustment,%20tension,%20and%20two%20different%20hinge%20distances%20from%20the%20frame).%20This%20is%20really%20personal%20preference%20though,%20and%20I%20suggest%20trying%20the%20stock%20trigger%20before%20upgrading.%20The%20Lasoya%20promaster%20comes%20with%20a%20different%20trigger%20then%20the%20normal%20ProMaster,%20but%20as%20far%20as%20I%20know%20it%20contains%20the%20same%20adjustment%20points%20and%20is%20only%20a%20different%20feel%20in%20design Why%20do%20some%20people%20have%20different%20colored%20bolts?%20Mine%20is%20just%20white! Some%20people%20(including%20myself)%20have%20died%20their%20stock%20bolts%20using%20Rit%20dye%20(available%20at%20a%20local%20crafts%20store).%20It's%20a%20pretty%20straightfoward%20process%20so%20I%20won't%20elaborate%20here.%20There%20are%20also%20Alamo%20City%20aftermarket%20bolts%20available%20in%20different%20colors.%20(note%20no%20increase%20in%20performance%20has%20been%20found%20with%20aftermarket%20bolts%20for%20the%20ProMaster,%20and%20some%20have%20even%20reported%20decrease%20in%20performance.%20If%20you%20do%20get%20an%20aftermarket%20bolt%20I%20suggest%20getting%20an%20oring-less%20one) What%20is%20the%20length%20of%20the%20stock%20barrel? 12%20inches,%20using%20autococker%20threading.%20 I%20just%20blew%20the%20LPR%20gauge%20on%20my%20Lasoya%20ProMaster!%20Where%20do%20I%20get%20a%20replacement? Replacement%20gauges%20that%20read%20from%200-150%20psi%20can%20be%20hard%20to%20find.%20%20The%20last%20time%20I%20checked,%20CP%20sold%20them%20on%20their%20website. Originally%20Posted%20by%20Madpooh%20 Screw%20Threading%20Measurements Barb%20sizes Front%20ASA%20barb%20and%20ram%20housing%20bard%2010/32 Barrel%20Threads: Autococker%20threads:%2015/16”%20x%2020%20tpi LPR%20Threads: 7/8”%20x%2020%20tpi%20(LPR%20to%20body) 3/4”%20x%2032%20tpi%20(LPR%20adjusting%20knob) Ram%20Shaft%20Threads: 10-32 Bolt%20Set%20Screw%20Threads: 5/16%20-24%20x%201/2\" Clamshell%20to%20Body%20Screws%20(4%20ea.)%20: 6-32%20x%203/8\"%20(Socket%20Head%20Cap) Grip%20Panel%20to%20Clamshell(4%20ea.): 6-32%20x%201/4\"%20(button%20head)%20 Trigger%20Set%20Screws%20(3%20ea.)%20: 8-32%20x%201/4\"%20(set%20Screw) 8-32%20x%201/2\"%20(set%20Screw) Valve%20Lock%20Screw%20(1%20ea.): 3/8-24%20x%201/4\" Solenoid%20to%20Clamshell%20Screw%20(2%20ea.): 1-72x1/2%20(Socket%20Head%20Cap) Eye%20Cover%20Screw%20(2%20ea.): 6-32%20x%205/8”%20(button%20Head) On/off%20Switch%20Screw%20(2%20ea.): 3-48%20x%203/16” Board%20to%20Clamshell%20Screw%20(2%20ea.): 1-72x3/8%20(Socket%20Head%20Cap) Bottomline%20Screw%20(2%20ea.): 10-32%20(lengths%20vary) HPR%20Set%20Screw: 5/16%20x%201/2%20(set%20screw) Feedneck%20Threads%20 0.812\"-32%20threaded Feedneck%20measurements:%20 www.hunt101.com/data/5...df%20file) *Information%20thanks%20to%20SpitleBug Quote: Originally%20Posted%20by%20Madpooh%20 O-ring%20Sizes%20(Dash%20No.) LPR: Lpr%20adjsuter:%20016 Piston:%20015 Body:%20019%20and%20016 Valve: 016%20(2) Ram: Housing:%20015%20and%20010%20 Shaft:%20010 Asa:%20 010%20and%20006 HPR: Upper%20part:%20015%20and%20010 Piston:%20015 Middle%20part:%20020 Common%20Upgrade%20List Out%20of%20the%20box%20people%20will%20usually%20upgrade%20the%20marker%20in%20the%20order%20shown,%20from%20most%20important%20to%20the%20least%20important.%20%20 ASA Feedneck High%20Pressure%20Regulator Barrel Valve Trigger Barrels Any%20autococker%20threaded%20barrel%20will%20work.%20A%20discussion%20of%20potential%20barrels%20you%20should%20use%20would%20be%20too%20long%20for%20this%20sticky.%20%20Try%20and%20get%20a%20barrel%20kit%20that%20has%20a%20good%20amount%20differing%20bore%20sizes%20and%20you%20should%20be%20okay.%20%20Personal%20preference%20will%20dictate%20which%20is%20best. Feednecks AKA%20Feedneck%20–%20Great%20quality%20feedneck,%20the%20kind%20we’ve%20come%20to%20expect%20from%20AKA.%20Be%20sure%20to%20choose%20the%20third%20one%20down%20in%20Bushmaster%20threads.%20It’s%20height%20is%20somewhere%20between%20CCM’s%20no%20pro%20and%20no-rise,%20which%20is%20the%20perfect%20height%20in%20my%20opinion.%20It%20has%20a%20nice%20clean%20look,%20and%20which%20isn’t%20as%20fancy%20as%20the%20CCM,%20is%20cheaper,%20and%20just%20as%20functional. www.akalmp.com/feedtubes.html CCM%20No-Pro/%20No-Rise%20–%20The%20only%20other%20true%20‘Bushmaster’%20threaded%20feedneck%20out%20there.%20This%20is%20the%20nicer%20looking,%20however%20more%20expensive%20option.%20Either%20way,%20both%20the%20AKA%20and%20the%20CCM%20are%20quality%20products. stores.ebay.com/ccmfactorydirect www.compulsivepaintbal...Rise-Black ASAs Note:%20There%20are%20many%20ASA’s%20currently%20on%20the%20market%20so%20don’t%20be%20limited%20by%20these%20choices.%20%20Make%20sure%20the%20ASA%20you%20choose%20is%20a%20solid%20piece%20of%20equipment.%20%20You%20don’t%20want%20your%20bottle%20coming%20off%20your%20marker%20in%20the%20middle%20of%20a%20game%20because%20of%20poor%20design. Try%20to%20get%20a%20rail%20with%20least%20two%20points%20of%20contact%20between%20the%20rail%20and%20the%20ASA.%20%20Also,%20to%20keep%20things%20a%20little%20bit%20safer,%20get%20an%20ASA%20with%20a%20bleed%20mechanism.%20%20 Custom%20Products%20ASA/Rail%20combo-%20Excellent%20ASA.%20Well-balanced,%20easy%20to%20turn,%20looks%20decent,%20and%20you%20can%20get%20it%20in%20a%20plethora%20of%20different%20colors.%20What%20more%20could%20you%20ask%20for? www.compulsivepaintbal...Drop-Black www.compulsivepaintbal...line-Black AKA%20ASA/Rail%20combo%20–%20Simple%20and%20effective.%20%20 www.akalmp.com/misc.html Planet%20Eclipse%20OOPS%20(On/Off%20Purge%20System)%20–%20Looks%20sharp,%20easy%20to%20turn%20and%20has%20a%20bleed%20function%20as%20well. www.compulsivepaintbal...Rail-Black There%20are%20other%20options,%20but%20I%20feel%20these%203%20are%20the%20most%20common/%20best%20available%20for%20the%20price. High%20Pressure%20Regulators Evil%20Detonator%20–%20Simply%20put,%20it’s%20the%20best%20bang%20for%20your%20buck.%20At%2025%20dollars,%20it’s%20one%20of%20the%20best%20regs%20out%20there.%20Disassembly%20isn’t%20the%20easiest,%20but%20again,%20TWENTY-FIVE%20DOLLARS.%20Think%20about%20it. AKA%202-Litre%20+%20Dual%20-%20Arguably%20the%20best%20reg%20out%20there.%20Period.%20More%20expensive%20than%20the%20Detonator,%20(obviously),%20however%20if%20you%20want%20the%20best%20performance%20possible,%20this%202-Litre%20is%20the%20way%20to%20go. AKA%20Sidewinder%20-%20Little%20brother%20of%20the%202-Litre.%20Still%20an%20excellent%20reg,%20at%20a%20slightly%20more%20reasonable%20price. Mac%20Dev%20Gladiator%20-%20Very%20consistent%20regulator.%20May%20want%20to%20buy%20directly%20from%20Mac%20Dev%20with%20a%20combination%20of%20the%20Glad,%20Red%20valve%20and%20the%20Sonic%20LPRto%20save%20on%20the%20expensive%20shipping.%20(If%20you%20by%20direct%20from%20them,%20it’ll%20be%20coming%20from%20Aussi-land.(Australia))%20 CP%20Regulator%20–%20Good%20reg,%20fair%20price.%20Some%20users%20have%20had%20reportedly%20had%20problems%20with%20this%20reg,%20however%20I%20have%20had%20only%20good%20experiences%20with%20it.%20Your%20call,%20it’s%20hit%20or%20miss. Valves Note:%20All%20valves%20that%20fit%20Bushmasters%20and%20BKO’s%20(w/%20the%20exception%20of%20the%20Venom)%20will%20%20also%20work%20with%20Promasters. MacDev%20Red%20valve%20–%20Excellent%20valve.%20If%20you%20can%20find%20one%20in%20the%20B/S/T.%20I%20strongly%20recommend%20grabbing%20it. 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Micro%20Rock%20-%20*Description%20from%20DyeMonic%20“Well,%20it's%20the%20best%20damn%20LPR%20available.%20'Nuff%20said.”%20**However,%20you%20WILL%20need%20to%20buy%20an%20adapter%20to%20make%20this%20work%20with%20your%20Promaster.%20I%20simply%20don't%20believe%20this%20is%20the%20best%20option%20available%20because%20of%20the%20extra%20$50%20is%20will%20cost%20you%20to%20use%20it.** Boards NOX%20–%20Great%20board,%20great%20programming.%20Uses%20trigger%20pulls%20to%20change%20modes%20and%20settings.%20%20Hard%20to%20find%20these%20days.%20%20The%20Promaster%20uses%20ONLY%20the%20vertically%20mounted%20NOX%20boards,%20not%20the%20older,%20horizontally%20mounted%20ones. 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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:15 pm
Post subject: Re: Promaster FAQ

holy crap! good work on this, i am gonna have to take some time to read through it.

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cs900 wrote:
a can opener is a good alternative to a sp on off.

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I see potential for a CO2 operated tattoo gun...

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Very nice, indeed. Only things I have found are in the original description, it says the Pm is such abd such inches less tall than the Bushmaster. Can we change that to "shorter" and dementedproducts.us is no longer available.

Other than that, great stuff. Let me know when you are comfortable with it, and we'll move it over.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:46 pm
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63VDub wrote:
Only things I have found are in the original description, it says the Pm is such abd such inches less tall than the Bushmaster. Can we change that to "shorter" and dementedproducts.us is no longer available.

Consider it done. I need to go through and consolidate the upgrade section (there are two actually) and clean it up in general. But I'm very grateful to Dyemonic for letting us have it. If I'm not mistaken, he was a regular around here for a while, but apparently with school and work and everything else, he hasn't had too much time for ICDO anymore. (Doesn't stop Maloneoni)
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:23 pm
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He and demented we regulars, but both drifted off.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:53 am
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63VDub wrote:
He and demented we regulars, but both drifted off.
Yeah, he got out out of paintball completely and i float around. I'm just too busy with other things.

If you guys need anything more from me for the FAQ just let me know and i'll do me best to help you guys out.
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