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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:47 am    Post subject: Re: High End but Low Maintenance markers

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I've been jonesing for a Bob Long Protege just to see how it shoots, and have been curious about other guns. But only because there is so much bad hype about the Ion, I'm trying to figure out whether or not other guns are really that much better than an Ion, or is the fact that this ANS Ion has upgrades in it changes the nature of the argument?

I have never shot an Ion so I dont know much about them. What I do know is that hype weather good or bad is usually just that...hype. The hard part is figuring out how much truth there is in the hype if any. alot of people hate the PMR...I explained why they hate it and why I love it. But ot listen to the hype...you'd think it was a cheap plastic piece of crap that gets 10 shots off a 68/3k fill. Mype is almpost ALWAYS exaggerated.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:56 pm    Post subject: Re: High End but Low Maintenance markers

there are alot of things that go into people hating on markers.

if you spent 1200 dollars on a marker and some kid with a 300 dollar ion tried to tell you that his gun shot as good as yours, you would probably be pissed. if you blasted the crap out of him on the field, it would end there. but part of the problem is that some of the people with ions are better players than the some of the guys who dropped 800 plus on a gun. it can be difficult to accept that the marker does not make the player. it drives me nuts when i get out playing air ball when some dude with a fricking pump takes me out. i am not going to dispute that the ion does not hold a candle to a marker that costs more than my car, nor should an 13 year old kids who just got into the sport. it is just stupid. (although seeing what some machinists have done with ions is pretty cool)

i cant speak for the pmr, but with the ion, you have a plastic body and powder coated parts. there are inconsistencies with the machining and maintenance is difficult on a stock ion. i think that most people who talk all the crap on both sides forget what the ion is: a marker for entry level players trying to get into the sport.

i forgot where i was going with this, but since i just typed it all out, i might as well post it.

it merits noting that the original msrp for a freestyle was $700+.

also, i have no intent to drag up any anger at smart parts.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:56 am    Post subject: Re: High End but Low Maintenance markers

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Thanks, the AKA was the last gun that I gun whored back in 2005 before I went on a long hiatus with paintballing. It was a very nice marker. But I do like what is going on with the plastic composite bodies of today's markers and how light weight they are.

Sometimes I think I'm OCD. I'm constantly looking for that mythical unicorn gun that is absolutely underappreciated, undervalued and slings paint with the rest of them. And then I get the new toy, and realize that I still play the same way and shoot maybe 8 balls a second on a lucky day. Lol.

The Ion is actually really easy to maintain and troubleshoot. I was surprised after hating and having to deal with SP back in the day trying to find an Impie that wouldn't leak. With the Ion if it does leak you can actually separate the body and look at the internal hoses while its aried up. I might be on the hunt for one of those PMRs though.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:14 am    Post subject: Re: High End but Low Maintenance markers

dont get me wrong, i am not bashing on the ion. they are very simple to work on once you know what you are doing.

and like the pmr, ion parts are dirt cheap.

i would love to get my hands on a aka marker.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:50 am    Post subject: Re: High End but Low Maintenance markers

"i would love to get my hands on a aka marker."

I would have to say play with one first, the resale is really good on them unless you mill up the body all ugly.

Granted I shot maybe a bag of paintballs through that marker before I sold it and never played a game with it, after I got over the excitement of owning one I went back to using the Bushmaster and a Gen 1 Defiant. They were a tad too big and heavy for my liking, it shoots just like a bushie though but without the pop when you fire and less kick if you even perceive any?
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