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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Old Hot Tub Hole in Deck - Any Ideas?

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I don't know about a pond in the deck. Not really liking that idea.

Malone - Have you ever seen anything like this? I don't really know what kind of fireplace to put into it?

Nobody- There will definitely be a bar of some sort.

You would have to have get gas out to it somehow. I would defiantly go gas over wood though. The gas would be less of an issue with the pergola and the wood deck. I would shrink the size of the hole too. Maybe check out BBQ stores. They should sell units that are designed to be in a fixed place.

I have seen back yard gas stoves, but I don't recall one where the fire is the center piece.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Old Hot Tub Hole in Deck - Any Ideas?

awesome I can work out some ideas with those pictures. few questions..
Do you guys entertain guest?
how many ? just a couple over for dinner or do you have large weekend party? Do you guys use the deck to entertain the party? do you like the pergola the way it is or would like it covered or have plants on it

Do you already own a grill?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Old Hot Tub Hole in Deck - Any Ideas?

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I don't know about a pond in the deck. Not really liking that idea.

Malone - Have you ever seen anything like this? I don't really know what kind of fireplace to put into it?

Nobody- There will definitely be a bar of some sort.

You would have to have get gas out to it somehow. I would defiantly go gas over wood though. The gas would be less of an issue with the pergola and the wood deck. I would shrink the size of the hole too. Maybe check out BBQ stores. They should sell units that are designed to be in a fixed place.

I have seen back yard gas stoves, but I don't recall one where the fire is the center piece.

Getting gas out there is no problem!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Old Hot Tub Hole in Deck - Any Ideas?

Northup wrote:
awesome I can work out some ideas with those pictures. few questions..
Do you guys entertain guest?
how many ? just a couple over for dinner or do you have large weekend party? Do you guys use the deck to entertain the party? do you like the pergola the way it is or would like it covered or have plants on it

Do you already own a grill?

Well I haven't closed on the house yet, so as of yet the deck hasn't even been used, but it will be used to entertain yes.

Don't really host large parties, Just a few couples over for dinner. No larger then a group of 8 or 10 usually just 6 or so.

There could be plants on the pergola or the way it is or a cover, it really doesn't have any special meaning to me.

I do own a grill, but nothing special. Just a propane grill i picked up from the store for $150.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Old Hot Tub Hole in Deck - Any Ideas?

Good looking deck there. Looks like its been stained (i.e. they stained the wood). Frankly it should be pretty dang easy to match that stain even with some sun fade on it.

Get a piece of deck and take it to HD or Lowes. Haven them work with some of the available stains to see if you can come up with something that will work.

Another option would be to go with a sunken sitting area. You could build a bench area around the hole and have a table in the middle. You could even build the table as part of the deck. This would also help be a "step change" that would take away from the obviousness of any stain color differences.

Hopefully that made some sense.

Oh and I would not build any sort of fire place in the middle of a deck....umm fire...deck...house not mixy mixy. That being said, there are ways it could be done safely and if you did it I would make it a natural gas fire.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Old Hot Tub Hole in Deck - Any Ideas?

cool there's plenty of stuff to do with it, simplest is just covering it over with decking, its super easy but usually requires you to re-stain the deck so the color of the decking matches

koi ponds are popular and can be really nice, but I never suggest them, cost like 25$ a month just to run pumps and filters, then the set up fees will cost over 1,000$ for a decent pond that wont turn green in a week.

If you cover it you can turn that rail into a real "bar" and grill area, but i have some other good ideas up my sleeve ill bang out a quick sketch on paint or something dont have any design programs on this comp.

Like Mal said gas fire places are great ill show you an idea with one

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Old Hot Tub Hole in Deck - Any Ideas?

Thank you, yes the deck is very nice. It needs to be stained anyway so i'm not too worried about making everything match perfectly.

A sunken sitting area was my first idea, but i think there is more that could be done with it.

I would LOVE to have a fire pit of some sort, but i am with you on the fire hazard, especially with the pergola above.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Old Hot Tub Hole in Deck - Any Ideas?

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cool there's plenty of stuff to do with it, simplest is just covering it over with decking, its super easy but usually requires you to re-stain the deck so the color of the decking matches

koi ponds are popular and can be really nice, but I never suggest them, cost like 25$ a month just to run pumps and filters, then the set up fees will cost over 1,000$ for a decent pond that wont turn green in a week.

If you cover it you can turn that rail into a real "bar" and grill area, but i have some other good ideas up my sleeve ill bang out a quick sketch on paint or something dont have any design programs on this comp.

Like Mal said gas fire places are great ill show you an idea with one

Yea i'm not for that. I would rather pay for the hot tub then a koi pond. I'm trying to get away from monthly costs.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Old Hot Tub Hole in Deck - Any Ideas?

Hot tub will cost you about that much a month to run too Rolling Eyes Pools and spas are not cheap at all....especially spas, their motors seem to crap out much more quickly than pools.

I know, just put in one of those inflatable blue pools you see in every suburban back yard. Not only would it be awesome it would easily double the value of your house Mr. Green

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Old Hot Tub Hole in Deck - Any Ideas?

Imageshak isn't working for me so I couldn't upload anything but this will work for ideas...

simplest way is just cover the hole with decking and redo the bar make it a little bigger/wider so you can put seating or stools up to it to eat at. Slide the grill along the side rail, build a small cabinet on either side to make it look more built in.


If you want to keep the hole in the deck. I think you said there was cement slab under it not just a dirt bottom right? take lattice and cut it to fit the inner edge so you don't look under the deck, or cut boards to match the outside decks edge, you don't want people to see under the deck. Then make it into a seating area with a table, its just like a "Japanese style seating table" table is only maybe 1foot higher then the deck level but when you sit at it your sitting normal height, here some reference photos.

You can just make your own table its really simple if you can do simple carpentry, if not it would be cheap to hire someone. I always suggest like a Copper seating to cover the table top cause it looks awesome when shinny or just gets better if aged with tarnish by the weather but it is expensive right now. Butcher block is cheap and looks good also.
You could just buy the seats or make bench style seating along the table edges,
Simple just take a piece of 1/2" plywood cut it to length add foam padding and cover it with fabric(canvas is good) and staple the fabric to the back and just lay the bench along the decking, you could add similar padded seating to the bench along the other side of the deck

If you are doing a fireplace its too dangerous to have a fire "pit" that low in the middle of a deck, (imagine someone walking across the deck and night and just falling into it when its off.) So you still have a few options, do the same table idea as above and jut put a fireplace in the middle of it, just box the footing area so your foot is a little limited. Or just make a built in fire table with no seating built with it, you would just pull up chairs around it. below are some nice outdoor gas fireplaces, some are cheaper but they are easy since all it needs is electricity and a gas line which is easy to run and hide under the deck.


[img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQFFQeMRDu4gPiDXbRy2Gk1zRbojiV4m-ECMZpTvELgyDWfnJLGPw&t=1[/img]
imagine this but sunken into the deck


Glass fire pits are really interesting with the gas fire pits, lots of colors available



Also you could put planted large pots with vines to cover the pergola, or run white lights over the top of it. Great lighting for dinners at night and simple and removable. plus you can just run a wire to a plug right at the base of the pergola
[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kvOahDnSLkQ/SndKHFe90lI/AAAAAAAAC4c/e1lkIKTqGGg/s400/Stacie%27s+Wedding+-+Lights+Pergola.jpg[/img]

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